[Fire Away! Podcast] Episode 019 – Leaving A Church Can Be Rough

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Show Notes


  • On today’s show Landon discusses a number of issues.  He begins by speaking to the appropriate way to leave a church and an appropriate response from staff.  Then, he speaks to the disappearing act of biblical discernment before addressing the latest Beth Moore situation and finishing with a segment with Koz, the Apologetics Guy on abortion.

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[00:03:54] Topic 1: Leaving A Church for Doctrinal Reasons

  • If you are leaving a church:
    • Be gracious for your time there.
    • Be respectful of leadership as you leave.
    • Do not “sling mud” on the way out.
    • Do not grab hold of as many people as possible and drag them with you.
    • Earnestly pray for that church and its leadership
  • If you’re on staff at a church where someone is leaving:
    • Remember that just because they are leaving your church does not mean they aren’t still a brother or sister in Christ.
    • Follow-up with them to ensure they get plugged in at a good church and don’t drop of the corporate worship map.
    • Do not treat them as if they’re already gone.
  • Questions for a potential Pastor.

[00:22:59] Topic 2: Discernment Has Disappeared

  • Why Discernment has disappeared
  • Why direct confrontation and naming names is necessary
    • We are to absolutely name names when it comes to heretics and false teaching.
    • 2 Timothy 4:14 “Paul warns Timothy to beware of Alexander the Coppersmith, who greatly opposed the gospel.”
  • We must be biblically discerning. You can’t unplug your brain as a Christian.
    • When we unplug our brains, we run into quotes such as this which was posted on Facebook by a young Pastor’s wife and then shared by said young Pastor:
      • “Pastors are starting to get wily. When people tell my friend, ‘I’m not being fed,’ he replies, ‘I’m perfectly happy to spoon feed my one-year-old. But if I’m still spoon-feeding him when he’s five, we’ve got a problem. Here’s a fork. Feed yourself.”
  • When we practice biblical discernment, we must be very careful not to attack the character of the person, rather, it’s specifically the faulty message we’re after.

[00:49:12] Topic 3: The Curious Case of Beth Moore

  • Beth Moore is A Prophet for an un-discerning church.
  • Interestingly, she recently engaged in a conversation with a 22 year-old woman who called her a “false teacher” on Twitter.  Before doing so, she wrote an article titled, “It’s Hunting Season for Heretics“.
  • Once this article was published, it was very easy for anyone with Google to check and see who the woman was that Beth was referencing.  The woman’s name is Jessica Lam and she recently posted the email exchange on Twitter for all to read.
  • Beth Moore has plenty of solid Bible study materials available. But in recent years, she has begun to claim divine revelation and is endorsing false teachers such as Joyce Meyer and Joel Osteen. Add to that the fact she should not be preaching as a woman anyway, and well, we’ve got a problem.
  • If your church’s women are studying Beth Moore materials, going to her conferences, listening to her CD’s, please consider gently steering them in another direction.

[01:34:40] Topic 4: Question for the Apologetics Guy: Abortion

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 General Information

Landon Chapman

Landon Chapman

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Founder of Entreating Favor, writer, and host of the Fire Away! podcast. He is an architect by vocation and professes the Bible to be the infallible, inerrant, Word of God. He and his wife Holly have two children.

Steven Kozikowski

Steven Kozikowski

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The resident Apologetics Guy here at Entreating Favor. You’ll find him contributing regularly to the Fire Away! Podcast and periodically penning blog articles.

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